Prepper Response To The Sandy Hook Elementary Mass Murders

On Friday, as you know, a deeply troubled boy entered Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut and killed 20 young children and 6 adults.  It’s horrible, but politicians and the media have been warping the truth on what happened and attempting to use it as a way to centralize power and take guns away from ordinary citizens.  I want to share with you today some facts, logic, reason, history, and perspective about what’s going on.

  1.  On the 13th of December, a mentally unstable man stabbed an elderly woman and then went to a nearby school where he stabbed 22 children before being subdued.  There were 6 knife attacks like this in a 7 month period in 2010 that killed nearly 20 and wounded more than 50.

    Where did this happen?  China.  Why didn’t you hear about any of these mass killings?  Because they don’t fit in with the message that guns are the problem.

  2. The worst mass killing at a US school was in Bath, Michigan in 1927 when a man who was mad at the government for raising his taxes so high that they could foreclose and use the land to build a school retaliated by setting off a bomb that killed 44, including 38 children.
  3. Roughly 1-3% of the entire population (including inmates) would be institutionalized if our mental health laws were the same as they were several decades ago.  A LOT of mental health patients are now treated in jails after they commit crimes rather than in mental institutions.

    While I’m not suggesting that 1-3% of the population should be institutionalized, I am saying that if/when these 1-3% go off of their meds or just plain go off the rails and take evil actions, the rest of society needs to have the tools at their disposal to protect themselves and other innocent people around them.  To be clear, most of this 1-3% number will not go off the rails in an extremely violent manner, but when you’ve got a country of over 300 million, even 1/10th of 1% is 300,000 people.

Evil has been around since Cain killed his brother Able.  Evil is with us now, and evil will be a constant, although hopefully infrequent, companion to one extent or another throughout each of our lives.  Denying evil doesn’t make it go away…it only causes paralysis due to disbelief when crashes into your life.

  1. When cities, states, and countries institute more restrictive gun laws they experience an increase in almost all forms of violent crime.  If anyone brings up Canada, England, or Australia as examples to the contrary, they are simply ignoring the reality that these countries experienced double digit increases in violent crime immediately following their most recent crackdowns.
  2. The presence of a firearm in an active shooter situation can be enough to end the killing.  Take the Trolley Square killings in Salt Lake City OR possibly even the Clackamas Mall last week.
  3. Neither the AR-15 nor the Sig 556 is an M-16, M-4, or assault weapon.  They are simply rifles that shoot a round that is BARELY legal for hunting in many states and not legal for hunting in some other states because of how underpowered it is for big game.  Were they used in a horrible way?  Absolutely.  Was it the fault of the firearms?  No.  No more than the China stabbings are the fault of knives, the Bath, Michigan bombings were the result of explosives, that chlorine gas killings are the result of chlorine, or that if I get beat over the head with a rock that the rock should get blamed for my killing.  BAD people kill people and the only thing that stops them is good people.
  4. 911 doesn’t have a teleport feature yet and cop cars don’t have warp drive, so you better be prepared to self-support for several minutes after dialing 911.
  5. The US isn’t the only country in the world, and we aren’t the first to face the issue of mass killings in schools.  Israel and South Africa both faced a similar problem and their solution was to arm teachers and administrators.  The reasoning?  Hire teachers who love kids, who want to protect them, and give them the tools to do it.
  6. AT LEAST 3 of the adults murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary took the fight to the murderer and died trying to stop him.  Principal Dawn Lafferty Hochsprung is reported as having been advancing on the murderer as he shot her and music teacher, Maryrose Kristopik, had her class hide in a closet and proceeded to lock the murderer out.  First grade teacher, Victoria Soto, evidently acted as a human shield to distract the murderer so that her class would have an extra few seconds to get to safety.

In every group of people, you’re going to have sheepdogs like Ms. Kristopik who are willing to stand up to evil and sheepdogs like Principal Hochsprung and Ms. Soto who take it one step further and are willing to take the fight to the bad guy and protect the innocent.

But the will and the grit to stare evil in the face and decide to take it on doesn’t do a darn bit of good if they have the willingness to fight but don’t have the tools and/or the skills to fight effectively.

Now, since the teachers at Sandy Hook Elementary were law abiding citizens, they didn’t carry guns into the gun free zone.  Of course, evil people intent on murdering innocents don’t really care.  Despite all of the opinions to the contrary, I don’t believe that most psychopathic murderers target gun free zones—our politicians have just conveniently made it illegal for law abiding citizens to protect themselves when visiting the locations that happen to be the juiciest targets.

And the argument for more armed guards?  Give me a break.  The reality is that taxpayers don’t have money for higher taxes, teachers unions won’t agree to a cut in teacher pay to pay for additional guards, and most guards won’t work for free.  If you hired the necessary number of guards to make a meaningful difference in the security of a school, you’d end up with half a dozen security guards who were VERY bored 99.999% of the time.

What’s the answer then?  Give teachers and other school officials the tools that they need to protect their children.  And not the sad excuse for a plan that says to “lock your doors, pull the shades on your windows, and hide in a closet or under a desk.”  That is a plan for a school that is more interested in minimizing casualties than stopping the threat.

There’s a HUGE difference between the two mindsets.  Put another way, it’s damage control vs. destroying your attacker.  That mindset in sports is what loses games for teams who have a big lead going into the 3rd or 4th quarter.  That mindset in an active shooter situation—where you are told to run and hide and give the shooter free reign for the minutes necessary for law enforcement to arrive—gets innocent people killed.

Don’t be naive and think that taking the fight to the murderer is a “clean” option.  With a firearm, you may miss the shooter and hit an innocent.  You may hit the brain, but not the base of the brain and cause a shooter to fire one last round into an innocent bystander.   Heck, the NYPD had a shootout with 1 guy in front of the Empire State Building and shot 8 other people in the process.  Stopping evil gets messy, and the decision to do so is sometimes a hero’s last.

So, given the fact that we can’t flip a switch and take care of the spiritual or mental health component of the equation, what do I think we should do?

  1. Encourage the warrior mindset of teachers who already have it.  There are some sweet kindergarten teachers who have both an incredible nurturing nature and who excel at martial arts and a martial mindset, but they are rare.

    Don’t ignore training for these teachers—just focus on teachers who are predisposed to taking the fight to a bad guy.  It’s similar to firecraft.  If you throw a log covered with pitch on top of a match, it’ll put it out.  On the other hand, if you throw that same log covered in pitch on a fire that’s already healthy, you’ll get a bigger, hotter fire.  You can put the log on the fire from the match eventually, but it will take a little time and nurturing to build it up.

  2. Pick the right tools.  Firearms are one of the most efficient tools for innocent people to use to project force over a distance to stop evil as quickly as possible.  If guns are a possibility, then training is the next step.  Once training is taken care of, the next thing is secure storage that is QUICK to get into.  I suggest gun safes with 5 button mechanical locks instead of electronic keypad or biometric locks.
  3. If firearms are not a possibility, then I suggest Tasers.  Tasers are MUCH better than pepper spray in an environment with young children.  As a note, Tasers are NOT stun guns.  Stun guns operate on the basis of pain compliance and Tasers use a pulse that interrupts the electrical impulses between the brain and muscles.  In addition, civilian Tasers shoot out 15 feet.
  4. The foundation for ALL martial training is empty hands training.  Why?  You may not always have access to a purpose built weapon like a firearm, and even if you do, you might have to fight to get to it or to buy enough time to bring it to bear on an attacker.  If you’ve been following me long, you know that I am a HUGE proponent of Target Focus Training.

    If the Sandy Hook shootings were the straw that broke the camel’s back for you as far as knowing you need to get serious about self defense, but you’re also concerned about pending anti-gun legislation, I would suggest that you sign up for a special $47 package that they put together for my readers.  You can read more about it by going >HERE<.

  5. If you do have a situation where you’re limited to non-firearm defense against firearms, it’s important to identify people with a similar mindset who are willing to take the fight to evildoers in the event of an active shooter incident.  One person going head-on with a shooter is likely to be needlessly committing suicide.  They’re no doubt a hero, but the goal when confronting an evildoer is to go home at the end of the day, have as many innocents go home at the end of the day as possible, and do whatever is necessary to stop the evil party.

    With multiple people, though, there’s a much greater chance that at least one of you will have or acquire an angle on the shooter that they can take advantage of to rush the shooter and set up a situation where the rest can swarm the shooter and render them incapable of continuing to hurting people as efficiently as possible.

In short, YOU as an individual can’t control the morality, spirituality, mental health, or tendency towards violence of the people around you.  Someone determined to be violent will ignore firearm and other weapon laws.  Cain didn’t have or need a gun to kill Able and even if you could click your heels together and make all firearms disappear, mentally disturbed people determined to kill will still kill.  All you can do is equip yourself with the mental training, physical training, and tools necessary to be able to stop evil between the moment when it crashes into your life and a few minutes later when law enforcement arrives.  Preliminary reports are that the Sandy Hook mass murders only took 10 minutes from entering the door to when the shooter was confronted by law enforcement and took his own life.

Stay safe and God bless,

David Morris.

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About David Morris

David Morris is the creator of the Survive In Place Urban Survival Course, the Fastest Way To Prepare Course, Urban Survival Playing Cards, Tactical Firearms Training Secrets, and other books, courses, and articles on preparedness, survival, firearms, and other tactical topics. He lives with his wife, 2 boys, and 2 dogs.

Comments

  1. Guns will NOT STOP THE KILLINGS!!! It may reduce the total number of deaths, but not stop them! Evil people will FIND a way to carry out their agenda, period! If they can get guns, fine but if not, knives, swords, poisons and even vehicles make perfect killing tools!!! The sad truth is, our government is hell bent on taking away our freedoms, in fact, has already taken away several and they want “school” shootings, thus, the sheepole will beg for so called “safety” and give up their freedoom for it!!! Thus, they deserve neither freedom or safety, and the government will see that America soon has none of either! I hope I’m wrong, but don’t think so!

  2. Wow, I just had to write and say this was an excellent blog post. Bravo. I hesitated to read it as I’ve read more than I care to in this latest round of “debate” and nonsense over this horrible incident.

    I’ve been on this topic and similar debate for over 20 years and this post is so (surprisingly) well-written and succinct that I will be bookmarking this link and also using it as a reference to get others up-to-speed on the pertinent points quickly.

    You avoid a lot of the same tired arguments that our pro-gun/2nd Amendement fellows use and instead get right to the heart of the matter of some critical points of logic & facts. Bravo again and thank you. Keep up the great work.

  3. I think everyone agrees that once a bad guy starts shooting, the solution to the bad guy with the gun is a good guy/gal with a gun. As David points out, if you limit your definition of a “good guy with a gun” to only the police, you have a delayed response time until the solution arrives at the problem. I wish more states would have a “Good Guy/Gal With a Gun” (GGWG) permit system that supplements a CCW. If you have a GGWG permit, then you can carry concealed anywhere; schools, businesses that say you can’t have a gun, govt. buildings, etc. An exception would of course be prisons and similar secure areas where everyone turns in their firearm. I don’t care what criteria are used or what training is needed to get a GGWG permit, I just want the option out there. Some states will be more lenient and wreep the benefits. Some states will be so restrictive that no one qualifies and they will not see the benefits. Instead of making the argument that teachers need guns, or we need armed guards, I think almost everyone can agree that good guys/gals with guns is a good thing. If we can agree on that common ground, then the discussion moves from “the gun” to the definition of “good guy/gal”. That seems like a good first step to making something positive happen.

  4. Good start to the conversation. Reactive emotional responses are too often of little efficacy. If each of us were to function in a heightened state of awareness, try to curb the culture of commercialized violence and reach out to the disenfranchised we may just make a difference. Thanks for the thoughts!

  5. Sue the Frugal Survivalist says:

    Try to have a mentally ill relative who is becoming actively psychotic admitted to a mental hospital. See how difficult or next to impossible it is under our present laws. The newspapers are filled with stories of mentally ill people who attack or kill others, especially family members, after their family tried , but was unable, to get them into a treatment facility. I speak from experience. My brother is a paranoid schizophrenic. I can’t count the number of times we took him to a mental health clinic, trying to get him admitted because he was obviously , to us, becoming psychotic. We would be turned away from the clinic, even though my brother knew he needed help. Only after he’d reached the point of complete loss of contact with reality, would they admit him. Often, by that point, he would be combative, and be placed in restraints.

    Something is very wrong with our treatment of the mentally ill in this country, and it results in bizarre and pointless death and injury to innocents who the killer would never dream of harming if they were not experiencing a psychotic break from reality.

  6. Theo Maerkl says:

    I have a 22 year old son at home with aspergers in the past he has had some violent outburts of anger and he sais he is evil but he is not. When he was younger we had him on numeros drugs to help him deal Aspergers all of hi violent outburts were when he was on the drugs. it was about ten years ago now that he was taken off all medication ant that we would see how it turns out. He has not had one single violent out burst since he still has aspergers and has all the symptombs of it he still says he is evil and so on but he does not hurt anyone even when his brothers urge him on and they argue he will not strike out at them. So with all tha said I think we are looking at this in the wron way I would look at what was that kid taking and what kind of affect does it have on the person and how does that drug interact with what all else he is taking. We are all constantly bombarderd with mind altering drugs. Do the reserch test him for what was in his system people dont snap like without a reason somthing made him pull the triger. Guns dont kill people, People kill people.

  7. I just lost my nephew in a sucicide last month. He had autism (aspergers ) so hearing what happened to Adam was similar to my nephew. Both were antisocial, smart in school, couldn’t stand to be away from home, couldn’t attend college away from home and kept his true feelings to himself.

    My nephew’s meds were not working when he had anxiety attacks that last week of his life……so his parents were going to take him to the doctors on Monday but he killed himself on Friday night. He feared he would be institutionalized for his outbursts. Fear was worse than death to him if he was to be forced to live in an institution. I believe he overheard his parents discussing those terms if he didn’t improve, and he hung himself. He had no access to guns, and thinking if he had, would he go on a shooting spree? I doubt it, but Adams mother never thought his son would kill her and kill 27 people.

    I also had a neighbor who was a manic depressive-sexual preditor who came after me as well as others, he assulted people, had multiple jail time, and mental institution time but always released and getting in more trouble. He possessed a gun but it disappeared– I believe a friend gave it to him to use until this ill man threatened to kill his friend. That resulted in a weekend in jail..He tried to break into my home while I was in the shower, but my deadbolt held. Eventually he sexually went after children, and ran off, left to another state, was jailed there for 5 months, came back after his home was repossessed to break into it, and left again and I haven’t seen him since 2004. He was a danger to others and the law let him continue to hurt others and go after children.

    What can be done? My thoughts

    Mentally ill people should legally not have access to any guns. Any caregiver or roommate, guardian or friend should not have guns in the house where a mentally ill person visits or where the ill person resides. They should not be able to use guns for sporting, gaming, target practice, etc by friends or caregivers. I only know in this state owning a gun or purchasing one doesn’t mean having one in hand or access to one.

    Sandy Hook had security for a buzzer, but it’s not good enough. grade Schools should have armed security. Schools should not have windows that could be easily blown out for illegal entry. (High small windws) But have exit possibilities in case of natural disasters. Exit door okay to get out, but can’t get in. All this would cost more, but are children worth it and the peace of mind that goes with it?

    Banning assult guns won’t help this disaster from happening again. Banning God from our schools and government buildings hasn’t helped either. Knives, furtilizer, poison gas, and TNT have been used in mass murders before, and will be used again.

  8. David, I love your ideas for the most part. Plus the comments fill out the issues.
    I am planning to forward the link for this blog post to all of my federal and state representatives, my state Superintendent of Public Instruction and local school district administrators.
    I hope lots of your fellow readers will do likewise.

  9. Vic Monzon says:

    Incredibly well stated, David.

    No wonder I am such a huge fan of your philosophy, mindset, and service to those determined to prevail over any survival challenges.

    I can hardly think of much to add.

    First, I am so glad we were able to connect regarding FrontSight, which I believe to be the Premiere firearms training facility extant. And Dr. Ignatious is the most effective champion for protecting our 2nd Amendment rights.

    Next, your endorsement of Target Focus Training convinced me attend one of their intense weekend sessions. I am over 60 (quite fit) and have had formal training with Aikido, Judo, and (Chuck Norris) Karate. However, TFT provides extremely effective, pragmatic training for serious life-threatening empty hand situations that most any person can apply. Until an injury can be delivered to that assailant, his evil deeds remain at his whim.

    So glad to be a Prepper under your guidance. Your incredible dissertation should be Survival lesson 101 for those who prefer to be the Sheep Dog.

    Thank you David.

  10. John Robertson says:

    This article really spells it all out!

    Things you should know about the mass shooting in Connecticut and elsewhere.
    From todays National Review Online –

    A few things you won’t hear about from the saturation coverage of the Newtown, Conn., school massacre:
    Mass shootings are no more common than they have been in past decades, despite the impression given by the media.
    In fact, the high point for mass killings in the U.S. was 1929, according to criminologist Grant Duwe of the Minnesota Department of Corrections.
    Incidents of mass murder in the U.S. declined from 42 in the 1990s to 26 in the first decade of this century.
    The chances of being killed in a mass shooting are about what they are for being struck by lightning.
    Until the Newtown horror, the three worst K–12 school shootings ever had taken place in either Britain or Germany.
    Almost all of the public-policy discussion about Newtown has focused on a debate over the need for more gun control. In reality, gun control in a country that already has 200 million privately owned firearms is likely to do little to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals. We would be better off debating two taboo subjects — the laws that make it difficult to control people with mental illness and the growing body of evidence that “gun-free” zones, which ban the carrying of firearms by law-abiding individuals, don’t work.
    First, the mental-health issue. A lengthy study by Mother Jones magazine found that at least 38 of the 61 mass shooters in the past three decades “displayed signs of mental health problems prior to the killings.” New York Times columnist David Brooks and Cornell Law School professor William Jacobson have both suggested that the ACLU-inspired laws that make it so difficult to intervene and identify potentially dangerous people should be loosened. “Will we address mental-health and educational-privacy laws, which instill fear of legal liability for reporting potentially violent mentally ill people to law enforcement?” asks Professor Jacobson. “I doubt it.”
    Gun-free zones have been the most popular response to previous mass killings. But many law-enforcement officials say they are actually counterproductive. “Guns are already banned in schools. That is why the shootings happen in schools. A school is a ‘helpless-victim zone,’” says Richard Mack, a former Arizona sheriff. “Preventing any adult at a school from having access to a firearm eliminates any chance the killer can be stopped in time to prevent a rampage,” Jim Kouri, the public-information officer of the National Association of Chiefs of Police, told me earlier this year at the time of the Aurora, Colo., Batman-movie shooting. Indeed, there have been many instances — from the high-school shooting by Luke Woodham in Mississippi, to the New Life Church shooting in Colorado Springs, Colo. — where a killer has been stopped after someone got a gun from a parked car or elsewhere and confronted the shooter.
    Economists John Lott and William Landes conducted a groundbreaking study in 1999, and found that a common theme of mass shootings is that they occur in places where guns are banned and killers know everyone will be unarmed, such as shopping malls and schools.
    I spoke with Lott after the Newtown shooting, and he confirmed that nothing has changed to alter his findings. He noted that the Aurora shooter, who killed twelve people earlier this year, had a choice of seven movie theaters that were showing the Batman movie he was obsessed with. All were within a 20-minute drive of his home. The Cinemark Theater the killer ultimately chose wasn’t the closest, but it was the only one that posted signs saying it banned concealed handguns carried by law-abiding individuals. All of the other theaters allowed the approximately 4 percent of Colorado adults who have a concealed-handgun permit to enter with their weapons.
    “Disarming law-abiding citizens leaves them as sitting ducks,” Lott told me. “A couple hundred people were in the Cinemark Theater when the killer arrived. There is an extremely high probability that one or more of them would have had a legal concealed handgun with him if they had not been banned.”
    Lott offers a final damning statistic: “With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”
    There is no evidence that private holders of concealed-carry permits (which are either easy to obtain or not even required in more than 40 states) are any more irresponsible with firearms than the police. According to a 2005 to 2007 study by researchers at the University of Wisconsin and Bowling Green State University, police nationwide were convicted of firearms violations at least at a 0.002 percent annual rate. That’s about the same rate as holders of carry permits in the states with “shall issue” laws.
    Despite all of this evidence, the magical thinking behind gun-free zones is unlikely to be questioned in the wake of the Newtown killings. Having such zones gives people a false sense of security, and woe to the politician or business owner who now suggests that a “gun-free zone” revert back to what critics would characterize as “a wild, wild West” status. Indeed, shortly after the Cinemark attack in Colorado, the manager of the nearby Northfield Theaters changed its policy and began banning concealed handguns.
    In all of the fevered commentary over the Newtown killings, you will hear little discussion of the fact that we may be making our families and neighbors less safe by expanding the places where guns aren’t allowed. But that is precisely what we may be doing. Both criminals and the criminally insane have shown time and time again that those laws are the least of the problems they face as they carry out their evil deeds.
    — John Fund is a national-affairs columnist for NRO.

  11. Fred Stohl says:

    Take this out of your argument and I will accept all the rest. You don’t want his argument. Leave it alone. From the first paragraph of #3
    “Neither the AR-15 nor the Sig 556 is an M-16, M-4, or assault weapon. They are simply rifles that shoot a round that is BARELY legal for hunting in many states and not legal for hunting in some other states because of how underpowered it is for big game. Were they used in a horrible way? Absolutely. “

  12. I agree with David’s assment that our teachers need to have the means to protect our children, but we also need fix the root problem in our society. Through the link you’ll find an amazing article about the recent shooting written by a psychologist friend of mine about what we need to address to subvert this growing problem before it occurrs.

    www lighthorse. org/2012/12/1042/

    • I insist that teachers be able to bolt lock classroom doors from the INSIDE. I was an elementary music teacher for 30 years. My biggest problem with our “lockdown procedure” was that I was required to go find my key, cross the room, OPEN the door and step into the hallway in order to lock the door, because the door knob locks could only be accessed from the outside! Had a gunman noticed me – assuming I wasn’t shot dead on the spot, and even if I was – I would not have locked the door, and I would have advertised the fact that someone needing protection was behind my door. Teachers need to be able to go immediately to the door and throw a dead bolt lock.

      By the way………the consequences for any student, who inappropriately uses that bolt lock, need to be equal to the consequences for inappropriately pulling a fire alarm.

      Those, who favor arming teachers, are making some serious assumptions:
      First, gun accidents can happen anytime. What if a student got ahold of that gun?

      Second, I would not automatically assume that the children’s behavior would allow the teacher to fire a gun. Perhaps the children would sit quietly and behave. Perhaps they would be screaming and crying and clinging to the teacher. Perhaps they would not stay in place and run toward the “safety” of the teacher’s side while the teacher getting in a position to fire that gun.

      Third, how would a teacher’s gun have a chance against one capable of rapidly firing multiple rounds?

      There are so many things that could go wrong — I would seriously think about the entire school environment (responsibility, student behavior, etc.) before arming teachers.

      Meanwhile, please join me in advocating for INSIDE bolt locks on classroom doors.

      • I agree with you 100% on the deadbolt. The children’s reactions can be trained just like we do with fire drills and in my day with nuclear blast drills. Not all teachers have the skills and mindset to be armed but many do. The idea is to keep the guns concealed so nobody knows which school staff are carrying. Going up against a long gun with a pistol would not be my first choice but it sure beats the stapler on your desk. An off duty cop at a mall just took out an active shooter with his pistol and only fired one round. A civilian with a concealed carry permit stopped another active shooter just by letting the shooter see the gun. Every day lives are saved because the good guys have guns. Teachers in some districts carry now without incident.

    • Hi, I graduated H.S. in New York City in 1973, in junior H.S. that’s 7-9th grade we had NYPD patrolling the halls it didn’t stop anything because they can’t be in every bathroom or everyplace at once. You also forgot the Chechen rebels that killed something like 100 in a school, and the Moscow theater where the Russian Gov managed to kill around 300 with a knockout gas. If the mother was trying to have him committed, she should have locked up/hid guns from son, But she probably didn’t think he would do what he did. The late George Carlin had a great term for people like that ” He’s nuts!!” Unfortunately you can’t predict when they are going to fall from the tree

  13. Sorry I have not read all of the previous notes so this may have been addressed before. Why not hire teachers who have been in the military. There they learn to shoot and they would be more able to react and not hesitate at shooting someone who was shooting their buddy. There are a lot of people being forced out of the military because of govt cuts and a fair number of them are going back to school to become teachers. Sorta like the under cover air marshals on planes that are allowed to carry guns to protect the passangers. My husband is a retired Marine and he was a high school teacher and coach and he would have been able to do this job well. Also, I know of a Marine wife who is well trained in fire arms and she is also a elementary school volunteer and she could also do the job or protecting the students and staff. I am sure there are plenty of people out there who could fill the bill at being undercover (so to speak) and protect the children and staff. If the shooters never knew when someone in the school could defend the students and staff the shooters of the country might think twice about an “easy defenseless target”.

  14. Good article, David. I do have a few points to add on it plus some of the comments others have made.

    First, evil has been in the world since Adam stood by and allowed his wife Eve to eat the forbidden fruit, then joined her. Cain likely killed his brother Abel hundreds of years after the fall (there was a large population by then, hence his fear of being killed himself).

    I live in Canada and you are correct that our strict gun control (no CCW; no assault weapons; no centrefire rifle mags over 3 rounds; 3-5 month firearms license process including criminal background and mental health checks etc. etc.) has done nothing to stop criminal use of firearms. For example, we have had as many people killed per capita as you have in the past 40 years. Criminals can always get guns.

    I think mass shooters do pick “gun free zones” on purpose, at least in some cases. It is hard to tell because places where large numbers of people gather (i.e. target rich environments) happen to be the places that are made gun free zones. In the Aurora shooting, Holmes had his pick of 7 theatre complexes within 20 minutes of his apartment. He didn’t pick the closest, and he didn’t pick the largest. He picked the ONLY one that was a “gun free zone”. Coincidence? I think not. Maybe he’ll say if we ask him.

    Regarding having armed guards/police/military present in schools and other public places, this does not work. The Israelis tried it and the attackers just kill them first. Even open carry won’t work. Attackers rely on the element of surprise to maximize their body count (i.e. no one knows when or where they will strike). Defenders need an element of surprise (i.e. concealed firearms so the attacker doesn’t know who to shoot at first) to counter the attacker’s. The alternative would be for every adult to be armed, but while that would be ideal, we should not force anyone to carry a firearm, nor is everyone suited to doing so.

    • The last sentence of the 2nd paragraph should have ended “… in the past 40 years in schools”.

    • what will work for sure my sonny is a 1/2 inch steel door with 3’inch steel locking pins all around it for the front entrances made by an american company called liberty” and a mother the keeps her guns locked in a liberty safe also,, and unhappy no non sence retired police officer, along with some conceal carry principles and faculty workers,, oh yeah the element of surprise weighs more towards the guy thats getting ready to commit a massacre and is surprised by female 357. mag revolver with crimson trace laser!! dont believe me www.youtube.com “How to stop a massacre”.

  15. Larry Thruman says:

    It’s completly, insane the article you post. How you propose give guns to the teachers? We suppost to put security guards, with a perfect training in the schools, at less 2 or more. There are money for other stupids things and no money for our schools? Come in, men!
    Remember the congresswoman for Arizona encourage the law for use of gums? Pleae! weak up, eveyone!

    • Survival Diva says:

      It’s estimated between 43 to 55 million US households have at least one gun. In every dictatorship, guns were banned before complete control was sought. Countries that have had their gun rights taken experienced a higher rate of crime… in every single case. Of course they did! Criminals will have guns, whether legal or not.
      What I’ve taken from this evil is those who want to shackle our ability to defend ourselves are pouncing upon people’s fears, promising to make it all better….once they have the guns.
      This tragedy should not have been allowed a podium for opportunists. After watching a succession of talking heads on the news, inviting those on the air who advocate responsible gun ownership (responsible being the operative word here) only to yell and threaten and cut them off from stating their views with outright lies—like stating there WAS NO increase in violence in countries that banned guns, I finally turned off the news.
      Here may be a good litmus test. Only Sunday, an off duty female Sherriff’s Deputy dropped (not killed) a gunman whom had opened fire in a crowded theatre in San Antonio, shooting one man in the chest. She saved the lives of many. How much press has this received? I only discovered it on the Blaze. Is it possible this story of a gun in the right hands, saving lives, doesn’t fit the agenda?
      I believe David is correct. We should train our school administrators and teachers to defend and protect.

      • Dr. Ignatius Piazza from Front Sight has made the offer to train for free up to three designated staff members from each school. Front Sight is one of (if not the best) firearm training faculties in the country. Located near Las Vegas, he is providing an answer to the problem of protecting our children in schools. Israel has armed its teachers and it has been effective, America needs to wake up about the truth and guns. Politicians want to take the easy way out and draft more guns laws in order to make the public think their doing something. Assault rifle bans…? This is just a smoke screen calling all semi autos “black guns” “Assault” weapons. This makes about as much sense as putting a Ferrari body on a Prius and calling it a sports car, look if you own a gun you have the responsibility to learn how to use it “effectively” but you do have the right in this country to own one regardless of the action you choose (Semi, bolt, lever).
        God gave us the gift of life and we are to do whatever is necessary to protect that life and those around us, lest we become cowards and unworthy of that life he gave us.
        Let’s tell all the schools around us that there is an offer from Front Sight firearms training institute.
        “Once again, Front Sight Firearms Training Institute, arguably the world leader in providing intensified courses in the defensive use of firearms for private citizens, has the answer to stopping further attacks on school children. Front Sight will once again offer free firearms training to any school administrator, teachers, or full time staff members designated as school Safety Monitors.
        Front Sight will accept for training up to three staff members from each school, college or university.
        Applicants must submit a letter requesting training on school letterhead signed by the top school district official and designating the applicant as the school’s Safety Monitor.
        Please forward this e-mail to your state and federal legislators, local law enforcement departments and your child’s school administrator, as well as your friends and family, asking them to do the same”.

        • Joe is that you? I know the style. People please don’t make yourselves look pathetic by being condescending to this man. Just take my word for it – if you knew. btw hi! I was going to write.

    • not sure what guns has to do with it, also “weak up” But security guards are not trained unless they get the training on their own usually. the guards posted outside are there to notify the others inside as they are being shot in the military you learn you will be the first killed when posted out front.

      • clearly YOU dont know what you are talking about with regards to security guard training. Go online with you respective state enforcement agency who has control over guard companies and read the mandatory requirements. Armed security guards are not the answer. Armed and responsible teachers with common sense (which just seems to have totally disappeared in schools and our politically correct society of late) and access to properly stored weapons is a proper response.

    • rayzorback says:

      uh…. Gums? would that be Trident or Chicklets?

    • Sheepdog2005 says:

      What is your solution to sprinkle fairy dust and make all guns magically disappear. The only way to stop force is with force. Yes arm and train teachers who so chose to be, this is the only way. Read John Lott “More Guns Less Crime”, watch a few Nutnfancy videos “Sheepdog Concept” on youtube, as well as col David Grossman “The Bullet Proof Mind”. All first rate opinions with extensive background on this subject.

    • Larry,
      Even if you have armed security guards, one they are unused and bored 99 percent of the time because nothing happens. 20/20 news show on 14Dec made a passing statement after reading the names of the adults killed at Sandy Hook. “The Staff and Teachers were the First Responders.” What they did not add was, in this case the first responders did not have the tools to respond with.
      The option of training and arming Teachers and Staff is demonstrated in the Mercaz HaRav massacre in Israel in 2008. The gunman killed and wounded several students in the first class room, but was shot dead by civilians who had personal firearms available to them at the time of the shooting. (locked up, but available.) The deaths were still tragic, but 8 lives are better than 20 and only one adult died a hero.
      I disagree with you, the Teachers and Staff are with the students at least 8 hours a day. They care for these kids almost as much as we do and time and time again these adults give their lives in an attempt to save the children. It is much more cost effective, and simply effective, to have a paid employee who is trained to respond properly and still provide a service to the school and students. Oppose this to a hired gun, lowly paid, normally elderly, bored, walking around 5 days a week waiting for some emergency to justify his/her job. These position are hard to keep staffed and do nothing to help the students. If you are not producing a product, your position is cut as soon as money becomes tight. Sorry, Armed Guards in every school in America will never be a long term answer.

    • Tom Ritter says:

      Pardon?

  16. burton wong says:

    Politics, not common sense nor practicality dominate the power structure. It has been repeatedly reported that 2.5 million (high? estimate) crimes have been stopped with a gun and/ or the threat of a gun. But maybe the powers that be want to ban guns not only to maintain control (as Hitler noted) but to make sure the police, lawyers, prosecutors and courts continue to have jobs. You may recall a Fox news interview of 3 female CCW holders who were @ a gun “free” zoned restaurant where a gunman killed and wounded a number of patrons. Among them was a woman whose parents were killed there. She had to leave her gun locked in her car. The holders modestly stated they’d have had a chance to stop the killer if they had their guns. At least 3:1 against him—probably more since this was in Texas. Yes, we should be like Israel. Caveat: Gun holders should be rigorously screened with background checks, trained, and licensed.

  17. David, and everyone else for that matter, if you take time to do some research, you will find that every single shooter in every mass shooting for the last 30 or more years was either on, or in withdrawal from, psychotropic drugs. Several were taking more than one drug at the same time. Until our psychiatric hospitals were emptied, putting the mentally unstable out on the streets, and massive amounts of psychotropic drugs were being administered, there were almost no mass shootings. Every day, Big Pharma introduces more drugs intended to help people, especially children, control their urges, their anger, their sloth, or whatever condition their lazy parents or school teachers think is somehow abnormal and should be controlled. Big Pharma is responsible for most of the changes we see in our young people, and they’re getting filthy rich on the psychotropic drugs.

  18. Eric Goodman says:

    The apparent insanity of the killing of these individual school children at random is mind-boggling. Anytime this happens to innocent children it is senseless. Even idiots whose society or beliefs support the killing of entire families of their enemies have some kind of sick excuse. Even the worst characters that are murdering people in the movies usually let the children go. What has happened in this elementary school and in similar events that have occurred in the past will continue to happen until we deal with this problem logically. Mentally impaired individuals are not going away. Things that can be used to kill children such as knives, clubs, guns, hands, chemicals, gasses, and automobiles are not going away. Large grouping or assemblies of children in places like schools are a given. Police response time can be fairly quick in some instances, but even the best times are not good enough. Huge Swat teams are great for a stand-off, but can’t react fast enough, even if they are just up the street of an incident. Let me describe the framework for a solution. All college, high school, junior/middle school campuses be required to have at least one armed guard such as a policeman on site. All elementary schools or preschools be required to have at least one individual staff member or worker on site licensed, trained, and armed using conceal and carry. If only the vice-principal wounded in the attack had been trained and armed. We have armed Air Marshals on planes. We need to adapt.

    • I agree with your solution to have at least one armed guard on site–a policeman would be expensive–it could be a security guard. Also, I would suggest (as this article suggests) that teachers have a tazer gun and be trained in how to use it, and also in other methods of self-defense. There should be very strict rules that the tazer should be used only in a life-or-death situation.
      I suggest that every classroom should have a plan for what to do in a situation like this, and have a safe area, such as a large closet that locks from the inside and perhaps has a bulletproof door. Of course, there should be strict rules about who is allowed in a school or on school grounds.

      About the shooter, Adam Lanza, there was an article in on a UK website which said that, according to a plumber who worked in the home, Adam lived in the basement (but he had a bathroom, TV, computer, etc.) of his home and spent hours playing violent video games such as “Call of Duty” and obsessing over guns and military equipment. I believe in the right to own guns–but if your son is mentally unstable, you should not introduce him to guns at a young age and take him target shooting, as I read that Adam’s mother did, and allow him to watch violent video games.

      There is talk about gun control, but where is the outrage, that there should be, over violent video games and violent movies–which are deliberately targeted towards teenagers. At the same time, we have a culture that has legalized abortion, that has discarded morality, and that has in effect eliminated God. In addition, our young men who join the military are trained to kill. I know a man whose grandson is in the marines–his job is being a sniper–that is, killing. I have read that more men in the military die from suicide than die in combat.

      I have a friend (a woman) who is a substitute high school teacher in the Hispanic section of Los Angeles. In the schools there, there is no discipline. The students have no respect for teachers and will not stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. The teachers are afraid of the students rather than the other way around. Apparently the school administrators allow this situation and are doing nothing to change it.

      • Frankly, we are becoming a nation of cowards; we have PC and no longer hold people responsible for “their” actions or teach the consequences of those actions in our society. Americans have lost the idea of what it means to be an “American”, were now more dependent on government and far less on ourselves as a nation. We are now confronted with how to deal with evil again; and what will be our solution, are we going to take away everyone’s right to defend themselves, or solve the actual problem where it starts? Liberty and freedom is a hard thing to keep as our founding fathers knew quite well. We are giving up our liberty and freedom little by little for the promise of security which will be the undoing of our freedom.

        • Ok….so a lot of folks here are looking for the best possible solutions. Our society of sheeple gladly follow the wolves in sheep skins(because these folks…they have the answers). Many here are wanting to save society from itself….*newsflash*….it can’t be done….the indoctrination of this nation is fairly much complete….and many folks here will be considered a part of the lunatic fringe who need to be turned over to the proper authorities for….re-education. This smells more of a combination of Orwell and Manchurian Candidate. How do we know that the government didn’t instigate this to achieve thie primary goals?

  19. Typo report: “Evil has been around since Cain killed his brother Able. ”

    Later, “Cain didn’t have or need a gun to kill Able ”

    His name is spelled: Abel

    One source you can double-check: biblegateway. com/passage/?search=Genesis+4&version=NASB

    Just trying to be helpful.

    • Sorry Julia….the gun was handy and easier to use. It could have just as easily been a 12″ butcher knife, aluminum baseball bat, crowbar…..why Tim McVeigh didn’t even use a gun…..just a rental van loaded with fertilizer, diesel fuel and a timer with a detonator. So what’s your point?

      • My point was point out a small typographical error. I quoted the blog article twice, showing the misspelled name in context so it could be more easily located and the spelling corrected. My comment was not intended for public view, it was intended to help the author correct a mistake.

      • She’s a spell-corrector. It’s not about content or subject, just spelling. Move on.

  20. Well said no further comment needed, Unfortunately this is beyond common sense and the agenda Doctors are furiously pushing….

  21. I agree 100%. We need to arm teachers, ministers, hospital personnel, an armed citizenry is a safe citizenry plain and simple. There really should be no gun free zones, or else killers will capitalize on that weakness. I do not subscribe to the idea that these killers are crazy (how come they don’t open fire in police precincts, or on armed officers). They are programmed!!
    True story, a mad man once threw a coconut randomly at a man on a crowded street and killed him. Mad men don’t need guns to kill, anything in their hands is a deadly weapon.
    We need to keep our guns.

    • Sevy Tnecniv says:

      ABSOLUTELY !!! This issue is so simple … just train and arm some teachers and the principal and none of this will ever happen. Whether this was a planned psyop for gun control, and if so, the planners are truly evil people; or if this occurred because this kid was on drugs, then it’s time to seriously address the drug issue. Why hasn’t anyone ask his doctor what drugs he had been prescribed? Take guns away from responsible people and the only ones left with guns are the deranged ones who can always get guns on the black market … just like illegal drugs. Taking guns away is truly not the solution against sad events like this one and all the other ones with supposedly “lone gunman” … the modus of operandi is too similar for being just a coincidence. There is an agenda behind these events. You can’t stop any of these sick people to find a way to get guns and you can stop them cold if every one is capable of defending themselves appropriately.

  22. More information will be coming out regarding this killer in Connecticut. It could and probably will reflect on many who are autistic in this country in some way. A friend emailed me a photo of a teacher in Israel with a rifle over her shoulder. This is how Israel operates schools and so far–no mass killings. Of course the teachers are trained. Most Israelites are trained in the use of firearms.
    This country should have serious discussions regarding our teachers carrying arms in class. I do not think for a minute that it should be mandatory; however, if my child was in a class with a teacher who chose not to carry after the Connecticut situation, I would be more than a little concerned.
    My next thought is quite dark. Do any reading this believe the mother did not know and understand just how off base her son really was? The young man was on serious medication–we’ll all know more later and yet he knew where the guns in his home were and how to get them and even more important, how to use them.
    One man whose daughter was murdered by this killer was interviewed and he forgave the killer and prayed for his family. A truly amazing display of faith. I hope someday I too will be blessed with that belief .

    • What concerns me is that even though her son was a disturbed person, he was taught to use a gun and (I read) his mother took him target shooting. In addition, as I mentioned in another comment, he played violent video games such as “Call of Duty.” Apparently, the mother as well as the sons, were very interested in guns and the military and had posters of guns and/or military equipment on the walls.

      I have a granddaughter who has Asperger’s Syndrome, a form of autism. One of the symptoms, especially in boys, is that the person becomes obsessed with one subject, sometimes two. It could be computers, or trains, or, maybe in this case, guns. Another characteristic of Asperger’s is a lack of empathy. Also, I noticed with my granddaughter (who is 21) that she is emotionally immature, has poor judgment, and is attracted to negative things, such as horror movies. It is not all her fault–these are characteristics of people with Asperger’s.

      • William Vento says:

        Thank you for explaining Asperger’s for me. The mother of the trouble young man should have had a better way to secure her firearms. He should not have known the combination or knew where the key was. More gun control is the responsibility of the gun owner not the politicians. Let a licensed, trained armed citizen stop someone from shooting them and see how fast they will thank that person. People like Reid or Pelosi would no doubt still ask for more gun control laws. They are just plain ignorant.

    • Autism does not cause you to be a murder most Autistic kids do have empathy for others as they grow up, he sounds like he was bipolar and on meds for that. There are no meds for Autism. All kids should learn firearms are a tool and are very dangerous and how to behave around firearms. He obviously had mental health issues that where not taken seriously. Being interested in guns and military is very common with young adults who join the military. It is stupid to point that as a reason he would kill kids. Military is for killing the enemy not kids in school.

    • This mother did know how bad her son was, and I understand that she sought help and was told, thanks to the ACLU, that there was absolutely nothing the authorities could do, UNTIL he broke the law.

  23. Ken Martin says:

    This is a very well-written article and the suggestions are spot on. Perpetuating gun free zones in this country will invite more attacks like the one at Sandy Hook Elementary – whether at a school, a shopping mall, in public buildings, or on military bases. We have seen over the last few days crazy copy cats coming out of the woodwork. Notice Obama never mentions the massacre at Fort Hood as a shooting incident during his administration? That’s because he could not even protect innocent, unarmed soldiers and civilians from the attack of a wacko on a U.S. military base – a place that should be among the safest venues in our country. What makes us think the government can protect any of us in times of similar crisis at a sporting event, while doing our Christmas shopping, or even when attending school? It is clear that the highest ranking members of the Obama administration have an anti-gun agenda and have been trying to convince the public to support it. That’s what the botched Fast and Furious program was about, but backfired. That’s what Hillary Clinton’s support of the UN Small Arms Treaty is about. Why wouldn’t they favor a disarmament of America? If the citizens don’t have any weapons to defend themselves, then the criminals and elite politicians (sometimes one in the same) can do whatever they want to us and with us. Disarming the population is the first step every despot in history has taken before unleashing a reign of tyranny on its population. We need to be vigilant in protecting our constitutional rights, while using those rights for the good of our country. Screen, train and arm the teachers who are willing!

    • Thomas Ping says:

      Ken, you are right this is a very well written article. And to Jill “Amen”. The founder of Front Sight Firearms Training in Las Vegas, NV, Dr. Ignatius Piazza, has offered to train 3 school personnel from EVERY school in the country at HIS expense if we would change but ONE law. Repeal the “Gun FREE Zones” law to allow school personnel to carry and eliminate the “Criminal Free Zones”. Dr. Piazza has the best training program in the country, our children would be in very good hands with teachers trained by him.
      Everyone stay safe and God Bless.

      • Sevy Tnecniv says:

        So true, Thomas Ping! Ignatius Piazza puts his money where his mouth is. I am a Front Tight Firearms Training member. Every person in this country would greatly benefit from taking his course.

    • @ Ken Martin: I agree!

  24. Ask yourself this question? Since 1948 and some years before, what State has managed to survive while being surrounded by several 10s of million armed people who would like nothing better than to see every man, women and child of Israel, drowning in the Mediterranean! Those are the facts in a nut shell. They have forgotten more about airline safety, and the safety of their school kids than the U. S. Government, TSA, FBI, CIA will ever know. We should immediately begin to allow Teachers who wish to be armed to do so, and instead of frisking granny in her wheel chair, we should get rid of 80% of the TSA debacle, and begin to profile airline passengers because very simply “IT WORKS!!” AND TO HELL WITH BLOOMBERG!!! HE IS FILTHY RICH, AND IS ALWAYS SURROUNDED BY A DOZEN ARMED MEN WHILE THE AVERAGE CITIZEN (I know, I was one for over 50 years) cannot even get an application for a Pistol License in NYC, and even if I could, the only way it could be carried is in a locked box with no ammo present!!! Might as well carry a hammer!! I would love for Bloomberg to be forced to live near the Syrian frontier!!! But I promise you, if we followed El Al’s proceedures, 911 would never have happened because non of those terrorists would have ever been allowed to board a plane!

  25. I agree with the article above. There are those who are voicing their means of dealing with this problem–“It’s the guns!” Well, are they going to also take away all kitchen knives, scissors, and tie peoples’ hands permanently behind their backs so they won’t be able to strangle someone with their bare hands?

  26. After all is said and done, there is only one thing that stopped the Sandy Hook massacre from continuing. That thing was a bullet. If such a bullet had been administered earlier in the scenario…some children might still be with their parents.

  27. It is not only the Mental Health the reason to carry Guns,it is how we aducate our Kids.First of all,we have to Eliminate ANY Violent Videos(Games)from the Market.Kids lurn how to use & enjoy killings.No Exceptions.All Playing Games which are Violent have to be taken out of shelves & Educate any Parent to get read of all Violent Games available at Homes. Arm Control is not the only solution Educating everybody(including Adults)to avoid watching Violent Moovies/Videos/Games,
    The Results can be achieved in a long therm to eliminate using Guns in the streets by Children. Health issues with Kids are different issues which can be controlled by Backround check & regular follow up by Medical Experts.

    • Growing up in the 60s, I enjoyed Disney, Westerns and War movies/shows as well as hunting and target practice. None that I knew became mass murders.
      But then again, we grew up respecting Morals, God, Commandments, Golden Rule and very few Broken Families. I believe the lack of these 5 components are the source of most of our problems.

    • Rich Lindquist says:

      Removing violent video games will end violence? Did violence against the innocent never happen before video games? You really need to re-examine your data. You ever hear of Cowboys and Indians? Cops and Robbers? Playing Army? What about aggressive sports like football? Kids have violent play to experience, in a non-permanent way, the cause and effect of violence. We are born with it.

      Crazy or evil people always have, and always will, do crazy or evil things.

      • David Morris says:

        Amen, Rich. I have to say that I think both you and VAHE are partially correct. I played every violent video game I could get my hands on until I was about 30. I played “guns” with friends growing up…with suction cup arrows, bb guns, and just pointing fingers. That being said, I also shot my first bird with my dad when I was 4. That was several decades ago, and I still remember having to finish off the bird. The point being that the effects of firearms were REAL in a visceral sense to me at a young age…a decade or so before the first violent video game was made.

        Everyone exists on a continuim (sp?) in multiple aspects of their personality. Some people are firmly “good” and will never budge. Some people are firmly evil and will never budge. Everyone else is in the middle…some leaning towards pure goodness, some leaning towards pure evil, and some in the middle.

        People move around on the continuim throughout their lives depending on brain chemistry, experiences, past influences, and current influences…and some people’s “movement” is more elastic than others.

        If you’ve got someone who’s well adjusted with a respect for life and positive influences in their lives, violent video games aren’t going to change their behavior.

        But, if you’ve got someone who’s slightly on the evil side of the peak of the bell curve who’s brain chemistry happens to be out of kilter when the major influences on their life are negative in nature, then I can see video games being one of many factors that push them over the edge. With someone who’s developmentally challenged, there’s the additional challenge that they may not understand good vs. evil or real lives vs. video games the same way that you and I do. We don’t know what was going on in this murder’s mind…whether he was shooting real live human beings or whether he was shooting characters in a game.

        And frankly, once someone starts taking action, be it with a gun, knife, fist, bombs, etc., the “why” doesn’t matter. All that matters is that someone in his vacinity takes the steps necessary to make the murderer combat ineffective as quickly as possible. In this case, his immediate response to being confronted by armed resistance was to kill himself. If only it would have happened 10, 15, 20, 25, or 26 lives sooner.

  28. Common sense David is not as common as it used to be. Truth is only you are responsible for your safety. I recall Sept 11 2001 when people on a plane resisted but failed ,at least they tried.

    • Dr. Prepper says:

      Robert,
      They did not fail. That plane was headed somewhere to do unspeakable things. They saved everyone to whatever destination it was headed for. They are and will always be HEROES.

      • Thomas Ping says:

        Amen.

      • Sevy Tnecniv says:

        To Dr. Prepper … that plane was not there … something else was there otherwise you’d have suitcases … bodies … pieces of bodies, clothes from open suitcases all over the place and so on … and there wasn’t any of these … excpet a big hole in the ground which a 747 can’t do …. fuselage too soft for doing such damage on the ground … just like the Pentagon hit.

    • Robert, I do not believe that the people on Flight 93 failed. They succeeded in stopping the terrorists from reaching their intended target, probably the White House. Had they had guns they would possibly have been able to save many of their own lives.

  29. elaine bright says:

    good article as always. I would like to see what you heard and think about the statements that the mass murder’s Mother was a prepper and stockpiling weapons and ammo for the economic decline. My gut told me that might be a possibility when I heard how many guns and ammo was in the house. She was training this boy to shoot. My gut feelings were some what support by reading an online article yesterday, not sure what were their sources for the info.

    My gut feeling is that the boy was possible concerned that the talk of 12/21/12 would happen and he was going to put his Mother and as many children and himself out of the misery of the impending doom of that day.

    Tell me if you think my gut feelings are unfounded. How does a prepper not realize that someone in their immediate family coud be a danger to society if they train them with these deadly weapons? I fear she was training him to kill. Why does a prepper not consider this possibility that they could be training a mentally unstable person?

    • David Morris says:

      While I think it’s great anytime I hear of people stockpiling supplies for hard times, firearm ownership comes with responsibility and it’s the responsibility of firearm owners to secure their firearms so that they can’t be misused by children, criminals, or adults who don’t have the ability to think at an adult level.

      “Stockpiling” is another word that needs to raise your anteanna any time you hear it in relation to firearms. Many civilian shooters that I know shoot between a few hundred rounds of ammo per week to a few hundred rounds per day…or roughly 10,000-50,000 rounds per year. Buying ammunition when it’s on sale or before it goes up in price isn’t any more nefarious than doing the same thing with cabbage or fuel stabilizer.

      As to the fact that the mom didn’t realize that her son was a danger…there are three components to this that I see. First, the firearms should have been secured. Second, almost anyone can safely shoot with proper supervision in a controlled environment. Third, never underestimate the ability of a loving parent to miss or minimize faults in their children.

      • David, you seem to imply that by “secured” you mean no access to her son. He was 20 years old. My twin sons are 17, have been shooting for over a year, and have full access to our gun safes (including training in home defence tactics, what-if scenarios etc.). While I can never know for certain that they will stay “good guys”, I have raised them as God fearing young men and my faith and their professed faith leads us to believe God’s promises. You’re sort of making the case the gun controllers make that since we can’t know for sure who the “good guys” are/will be, no one should have firearms.

        • David Morris says:

          It’s hard to both keep an article short enough to be readable AND elaborate on every topic…I agree with your point but stand by what I said.

          The murderer’s mother, in this case, knew that he was mentally disturbed and developmentally challenged. She had a son who had a 20 year old body, but his sense of right and wrong was less developed than my 5 year old’s. Just like you wouldn’t want to allow firearms access to a 5 year old, you wouldn’t want to allow firearms access to an immature 5 year old in a 20 year old’s body.

          I had access to guns/ammo of increasing power starting in elementary school. The guns I didn’t have access to were simply secured by the words of my parents and I never violated that access. This was normal where I lived and relatively common to grab a gun, hop on a bike, and go meet up with friends to “shoot stuff.” We never used those guns to get even with bullies, teachers, or anyone else. It was unheard of. The world has changed in the decades since I grew up and that lack of firearms security is no longer acceptable.

          Your sons, hopefully, have a sense of right and wrong that allows them to make mature decisions with firearms. Heck, they’re within a few months of being able to deploy to foreign lands with the military…if not now with a parental waiver. Your 17 year old sons having access is COMPLETELY different than the 20 year old mentally disturbed/developmentally challenged murderer having access.

          So, yes, I believe her firearms should have been secured from her son…based on his developmental status, ability to empathize, and judgement ability…not strictly because of his age.

    • Elaine
      I personally believe the kid is/was autistic and the mother knew about it. She protected him, yet got him some help and some serious medicine. Many are preppers and not because of 12/21. Just look around at the job situation. Check the grocery stores. The price of gas scares many working for minimum wage.
      What I really believe is that the country has to reestablish the mental hospitals the country had in the 40’s thru the 60’s. Many doctors prescribing medicine today do so with the advice of the salesman.

      • There needs to be more help for children and young people who have mental problems or disorders, and for their parents. Usually parents have nowhere to turn for help, when they have a disturbed child or teenager–they are told they have to wait until their child is charged with a crime. If you take your child to a doctor or a psychiatrist, the first thing they will probably do is prescribe an antidepressant, which in some cases can make a child psychotic or suicidal. When my granddaughter, as a teenager, was acting angry, her mother took her to a psychiatrist, who prescribed Prozac. (This was years ago.) She was on Prozac for many years, and now she says that the Prozac made her feel like killing herself. She used to cut her arms when she felt anxiety.

  30. Sir, I respectfully request that you make these types of articles more “print friendly”. I always bring copies of good stuff like this to my local Sheriff and Chief of Police, and bring one to the school administrators too. I would love to be able to deliver this to the “powers that be”. Please see to the better print version. Thanks a bunch for what you do.

  31. Well written article!

  32. When I first glanced at the title I thought it said “Propper response . . . ” but then saw it was “Prepper response . . . ”. After reading the article I realize that it could and should be both. Well done.

  33. Carr Baldwin says:

    We are guilty of letting people with an agenda define the terminology. The use of the term “gun free zones” is a complete misnomer. That term is used to define areas where law abiding people are prevented from carrying a weapon while criminals are free to carry any where they wish. The best term which I can come up with is “criminal only carry zones”. It more accurately reflects the reality. If someone can come up with a catchier term, I would support them.
    I applaud you for not naming the perpetrators in the examples you cited. If all press were as responsible, the desire to become famous would be eliminated.

  34. Dave:

    I researched the concealed carry laws in Connecticut yesterday. The way I read it, is it is illegal to carry in a school, EXCEPT if you have a CCW issued by the state and have permission to carry by the school administration. Each one of those teachers had the ability to carry, but didn’t.

    I ask why?

    Did the administration/school board refuse to allow it?
    Were the teachers ignorant of this fact?
    Was it just personal preference that each teacher was predisposed against firearms?

  35. We have school systems here in Texas that do have teachers and administrators carrying concealed. They have to get a CHL plus go thru screening and testing to qualify to carry. The Principal of one school says that maybe more schools should do the same. Of course the teachers union in other states just thinks that it’s horrible – but I always remember the slogan: When trouble is seconds away, the police are just minutes away!

    I would rather have a school system that is prepared then one that relies on the “Gun Free Zone” sign on the door. Criminals and psychos don’t care what the sign says. I also think that all school administrators should get a copy of the “Bulletproof Mind” DVD set and watch them. It has great ideas about school security and examples of what happens in schools without security training. I bought the set and have watched it 6 times.
    We don’t need more laws. The Governor of Connecticut said on TV that his state has very restrictive laws – and the guns used were legal – just in the wrong hands. While I am saddened and angry that the shooting happened, I’m sure the the Obama administration will use this to their advantage to try to push thru more gun laws (never let a good crisis go by without using it to further your agenda – Rahm Emmanual) that will only make life miserable for the law abiding citizen and do nothing to solve the problem because— Criminals don’t care what the law says – that’s why they are criminals!

  36. Another fine article. How do we get it out to all the “CHICKEN LITTLE” people out there!
    The terrorist would never have flown the planes into the World Trade Center if the pilots and/or flight attendants had been armed. We need to shift our way of thinking. More armed guards at the airports won’t do it, we need to put armed , trained people on the planes!

  37. I fully support the 2nd Amendment and agree with everything you’ve said here. But the truth is that for our so-called “progressive” leaders, gun control is not about guns, it’s about control. They are as fully attuned to this fact as were Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Pol Pot, and Mao Tse-Tung. Unfortunately, these progressive leaders are blindly supported by their constituents (the ones with their hands extended and expecting free money and cell phones) as well as the equally blind mainstream media, educators, and certain celebrities.

  38. Maybe gun control should not be seen as banning weapons but having a system where by the gun owner is legally obliged to be the only key holder for the secured gun. If we look at this tradigy what do we see? an unstable teenager who took his mothers unsecured gun. I don’t advocate the type of control we have here in the UK but clearly measures shoudl be put in place to ensure gun owners keep their weapons secure and tha they are fit and responsible people to hold a firearm. I am a member of the British NRA which is very different from the USA NRA who could do so much more to encourage responsible gun security measures. If they dont you in the US face a back swing of public pressure to bring in very draconian laws.
    What woudl be so wrong with requiring citizens to obtain a permit to show they are not felons or have a history of serious or dangerous mental illness. Remember , we preppers and our families too are at risk from the rogue nut case with a gun.

    • The problem with having to obtain a permit from the government to prove that one is not mentally ill, is that the attitude of many of those who issue the permits is that “Everyone who wants to own a gun IS mentally ill.” The anti-gun propaganda has created a paranoia among so many progressives and liberals that they think there is something wrong with anyone who owns or wants to own a gun. When the anti-gunners get to define the parameters of who can own guns, it will result in no one having guns.

      To illustrate my point let me take the term “assualt rifle.” Militaries around the world have agreed on a defination of what an assualt rifle is. As a 32 year vet of the US Marine Corps I can tell you that part of the proper defination of an assualt rifle is it is one that has the capability of full auto and/or burst fire, as well as some other attributes concerning size, weight, etc. However, primarily because of the anti-gun main stream media’s influence, government bureaucrats have ignored the proper military definition of “assualt rifle” and declared that anything that looks like a military rifle to be an “assualt rifle” resulting in bans of owning something that someone thinks looks like something else.

      This is the problem of letting those who do not believe in gun ownership set the definitions and requirements for those who want to own guns. No gun owners are in favor of murder and are willing to enter into a reasonable and responsible dialogue as to how these murderous rampages can be stopped. But simply passing more laws (which criminaly will not obey anyway – by defination) and restricting the rights of those who have not committed any wrongdoing is neither reasonable nor responsible.

      One last illustration. To restrict the right of a gun owner to have a gun because someone else used a gun to commit a crime, would be like taking restricting your right to own a car because someone else stole a car and used it to kill someone on the road. The logic is the same.

    • Adam you do not know the gun was unsecure, he could have beaten her to death then shot her after he got the gun. Americans have the right to protect themselves but it is slowly being taken away.

    • Terrible things will happen with guns. But, every day lives are saved by guns and in a far greater number than the deaths. The press is antigun and as such they do not publish much of this or if they do it is for one news cycle. The US has far less violent crime than GB except in those areas where gun control is the worst. A gun dealer must get approval from the FBI prior to selling to any individual. At the start of WWII individual americans were asked to, and did, donate their personal firearms to the british.

  39. The absence of common sense, as usual from the “gun control” crowd, is pathetic and/or very revealing therefore, those of us who know the gun is not to blame had jolly well better take on this fight and make sure we win this one!
    The fact that the mother instructed a (male) baby sitter to not turn his back on her son, not even long enough to go to the bathroom and yet had these type weapons in the house is very troubling. However, this is a totally different issue. Would she have taken advantage of mental health help, if it had been available, we’ll never know. The fact is, we cannot protect people from themselves, we can only protect ourself from them!

    Thank you David for addressing this topic in such a straight forward manner… just what we’d expect from you…
    God Bless you and your family and Merry Christmas

  40. Anyone who wants to protect themselves or others should have a gun. In Switzerland Everyone has a gun, by law. Should be same here.

  41. Kenneth Nachtnebel,M.D. says:

    Great article. You are exactly correct; in short, a gun is about the only way to control a gun. As a senior citizen, it is pathetic to see how our social structure has unravelled and how we have allowed our children to be exposed to such horror. Our lack of a moral compass has allowed evil to thrive; our lack of wisdom and lack of strong leadership has bought us over many years a failing society who no longer has the eye of the tiger, lolling in a state of complacency and apathy which has turned us into whiney sheeples, expecting government to solve all of our problems when in actually they have been complicit in causing many of our problems. The final question to be answered is whether or not we can, in any way, keep the Titanic from hitting the iceberg? May God help us, for without His help, we will not survive. If this does not get printed, it is one of the examples alluded to above…..the need to be politically correct…..when we actually need to face the truth…..which is a course not many recognize nor understand, even if it is latched onto their nose in a death grip.

  42. Bob LeFever says:

    Return to conscription, (draft), to furnish bodies for the military. This will result in an immediate outcry from the public. Fire the companies that furnish the contractors working in all areas of our current wars. The money saved would pay for many police and school security personnel. (Contractors are paid 3 – 4 times what the military earns for the same job). The public outcry from the draft just might put a stop to the unnecessary wars we are engaged in. Each of us can immediately enact term limits on politicians. This simply means that you DO NOT vote for any incumbent. The position of professional politician can be easily eliminated. This is the primary reason we have the current problem with government in the U.S. of A.

    • In twenty-four or twenty-five States these term limit laws already exist. The problem is that they are triggered when 26 States pass them. If your State does not have a term limit law please work to get one.

  43. Ronald Bosworth says:

    i think we need to start using our military to help protect these schools. they are already being paid and who better to protect our children than a highly trained person, and marksman. it will also deter these idiots from even making the attempt to try and kill innocent people. changing the gun laws are only going to bring out more idiots out of the woodwork. but obama wants to restrict guns and our only protection. society creates these people, kids today are a bunch of pu%$#es and don’t know how to fight their way out of a wet paper bag. when i grew up i fought my way up. i was a 135lb. in high school and had many confrontations. once 4 guys held me and burned the back of my hair, life went on. i didn’t cry about it and never looked back. years later one of the guys that was involved in the burning came up to me and apologized and we became best friends for 40 years. my father always said to fight even if you lose, at least you gave it your best. i didn’t look for fights, they found me, i was a scrawny kid and to this day my nieces and nephews call me uncle scrawny. but people started to realize that i would fight even though i may lose. i did win several fights, but the point is that most of them who did win later gave me the respect as not backing down to them and using a bit of back bone, somethings kids lack today. my son in high school got sucker punched and asked me to teach him how to fight. i did nothing of the sort. i gave him some pointers, but did not one time show him how to fight. you can’t teach how to fight, you have to learn it on your own by getting back bone and standing up for yourself. you don’t go looking for a fight either. kids today cry when you call them a name and can’t wait to go home and tell mommy, you kids need to grow up and learn how to stick up for yourselves and get some back bone, you want to have everything gives to you on a silver platter and don’t want to be responsible for life. quit playing fake fighting and get real. i am sick and tired of people who blame someone else for their own failures. we need to go back to our morals and standards instead of using the gov. to come to our rescue every time someone calls you a name. we ALL NEED TO GROW UP AND BE RESPONSIBLE.

    • Larry Baker says:

      Ronald, you hit it on the head. I too, did have an occasion to meet the ground with my backside; but discovered that if I stood up for myself, I did command respect. Made no difference if I won, lost; or tied. A simple solution would be to put GOD and discipline, back in the schools. You dance, you pay the piper. People have told me that I have an attitude, but ask me if I care. Had those teachers been informed that they could carry in school with proper training, hopefully the only casualty; would have been the shooter. Guess what we need, is for the politicians and bureaucrats; to reach up and grab their ears, and pull down. Maybe if they get out of the dark spot, they might be able to see better. May “GOD BLESS AMERICA”.

      • Larry Baker and Ronald Bosworth:

        I totally identify with both of you. I, too, hit the deck over and over and did the same to my opponent over and over. I would connect with his chin and watch with interest as he pitched and fell. Always I would be surprised when he bounced up and decked me instead of staying gracefully down there in the grass where I felt he belonged.

        This went on seemingly forever and I finally grew tired of it and decided to implement the “final solution.” I stored – in advance – a two by four which we normally used as part of my gang’s sparring weapons and one day when my enemy was enjoying himself on the playground swings, I grabbed my weapon and ran towards him with the 2 x 4 swung back over my head ready to strike the final telling blow.

        On spotting me – and to my surprise – he tore off away from me and I must have chased him for twenty minutes or more until we were in to strange surroundings. We both finally got out of breath, and I gave up and walked all the way back home. He was spared my righteous wrath.

        A few years later, he bought his first used car and sought me out to show it off proudly. I thanked the Lord that He had saved me from harming a person who obviously considered me a best friend, of all things. I meant to finish him off but was saved from myself.

        The only thing that I did do was shoot an innocent song bird out of a tree with a BB gun and regretted it to this day. I looked down at that poor bird lying there lifeless on the ground and it was like murder to me and I really felt it. This wasn’t what God had in mind for that bird, I know that for sure!

        What happened at Newtown and Columbine had two similarities which no one has mentioned: Each occasion had a person named Rachel present. This made me look up Rachel in the Bible which led me to Jeremiah 30:15 about Rachel weeping for her children who were not. . .This is the forerunner of the soon physical coming of the Lord because this incident of massacre from the Old Testament points to Herod’s future attempt to kill any potential king by killing all male children up to a certain age who might threaten Herod’s own reign over the Jews.

        I think the Lord meant for someone to notice this connection with the passages in the Bible and the Newtown massacre, and that task perhaps fell to me. . .

        May they all be blessed and revered in Heaven and the ones left behind comforted by Him.

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